C Come on from the start. How did you know that you have HIV?
In 2003, probably in May, at the invitation of Chanel, we filmed "Plant Life" about where the legs of French perfumery grow from. It was a plantation in Grasse, and while doing what journalists call stand-up, I fell into a huge rose bush. I did not notice how a small spike was stuck in my stomach - apparently somewhere between jeans and a belt.
When I arrived in Moscow three days later, the whole thing swelled up, it became such a boil. I was operated on quickly at JSC "Medicina", without any tests. And three days later I left for China. There I was worried that the wound was somehow not very tight. The NTV channel was then served at the clinic of the Presidential Administration in Grokholsky Lane. They did dressings for me there, something else, some kind of aero-, baro- and bald horseradish. I say: "Take an HIV and syphilis test from me." - "Why?" I say: "Take it!" And in the end, they gave me this gray piece of paper: like, well, hand it over, if you want.
C Do I understand correctly that they literally did you a favor?
In general, yes. But I insisted on this analysis, because I was worried about the slow healing, I thought that there was a problem with the immune system. This has never happened, everything healed on me like on a dog. And I realized that I need to check the immune status. I'm still a biologist. I assumed there might be other factors besides the thorn of the rose.
C Did you think it could be HIV?
Was there even such a thought?
I wanted to clear the history, as they say, clean up.
With What is called, exclude.
Yes Yes. Rule out the possibility. So, I passed the test and forgot about everything, because it was October 10, 2003, and Vitaly Ginzburg, who is now deceased, unfortunately, was awarded the Nobel Prize. I went to his cottage. We got quite drunk there with Vitaly Lazarevich, and he drank me too much. He is 87 years old. I return home half drunk, half dead - I can't refuse if I'm a laureate Nobel Prize pours a glass of vodka, and the next morning they call me, you know, in this Aeroflot voice: “You need to go to an infectious disease specialist.” Well, it needs to be. Maybe the immuno-enzymatic analysis showed something wrong there, maybe they will show something.
And so I come, these guards part, I walk along these red carpets, go up to the sixth floor. The door of the infectious disease specialist is open. An infectious disease specialist is not the most popular specialty in the clinic of the Presidential Administration. There, in general, basically all stroke patients, heart patients, diabetics.
Opened door. There is no nurse. A woman is sitting with a challah. And in front of her is my card. You know, for three years there were some little things there - a therapist, an otolaryngologist, I lost my voice. The card is quite plump, crossed out with a red felt-tip pen, a marker, it says “HIV +” and something like is subject to liquidation / disposal. I don't remember. Terrible words were written there. “Pavel Albertovich,” she told me in such a Soviet voice, “you have been diagnosed with HIV infection. Because of this, the Deputy Chief Physician has terminated your service contract in our clinic, goodbye.” And this is October. Opened window. If I'm a girl...
With To jumped out the window.
Well, you know, that's not how news is reported. This was the most important news for me in 2003. "Goodbye. Your case will be transferred to the Moscow Health Committee, and you will be registered with the AIDS Center.” And that was at 7 pm. I ran like crazy along these completely empty corridors, trying to find the very deputy chief doctor who put this very felt-tip cross on me. I didn't find anyone, of course. There are some polite guards everywhere, some secretaries. Here is such a deontology. Deontology is the art of communicating with a patient.
Needless to say, I didn't get drunk that day. And since I worked for NTV and we had a database of everyone's phone numbers, I called Vadim Pokrovsky - this redhead will not let you down.
And the next day I was with him. Vadim saved me.
C Have you tried to sort things out with this clinic in any way?
C Why?
And because they don’t sort things out with the Buddha. What, I'll go and tell Jordan: "My contract with the clinic was terminated unilaterally due to the fact that I have an HIV infection"? In 2003? You are crazy? No. I realized that I will not sort things out in any way.
Was Pokrovsky just the first person to come to your mind on the subject of HIV?
And you called him right away.
C What did you tell him?
I say: "Vadim, my name is Pavel Lobkov, we talked with you."
C He said, "Hello, Paul."
“Hello, Pavel. Come to me immediately."
C No, you told him: "I was diagnosed with HIV."
C On the phone?
On the phone, yes. "Come to me immediately." The next day at nine in the morning I was with him.
What did Pokrovsky say to you?
He drew me a graph of how I would die.
S mean?
In the sense that my immune status is normal so far ...
C How many T-helpers did you have?
1050 cells. Excellent immune status. Actually, I'm above average.
Yes, you are fine now.
He says: "Look, with this immune status you will live until there are 500 cells."
C Did he say 500 or 350?
With He already then said 500?
Then he said 500. It was in 2003, when everyone around - you are right - were waiting for it to drop to 350. We will give you therapy, you will live on this therapy for 5 years. Then the virus will develop resistance in you, your immune status will decrease slightly and your viral load will increase. And the viral load, by the way, was quite high then.
From under a million?
Some thousands.
C Do you remember your first numbers? You really don't remember?
Status, in my opinion, is 1050. However, Vadim has it all. Marina Kholodilova was like that, she watched me all the time. So, Vadim was mistaken: without therapy, I lived not for 5, but for 7 years. In 2010, I began taking drugs, and the viral load dropped to an undetectable level. That is, I became less contagious than a potential kid from Bibirevo, who did not take any tests.
What did Pokrovsky promise you later?
Then it will be necessary to change therapy. The immune status will increase. And so every 6 years.
C How did you feel when you first came to the AIDS Center?
The first impression is that this is the realm of death. Shabby corridors, upper secret floors, where, as they say, patients die alone, to which no one is allowed. The smell of cabbage soup and horror, library ficuses and linoleum. Pokrovsky's office, as if from Office Romance. And at the same time, an incredible level, no matter how funny it sounds, is hospitality. Answer all questions, spare no time.
With You came out of Vadim Pokrovsky. What did you do?
I was a little confused, to be honest.
What happened in this fog and how long did it last?
Nothing. For some reason it seemed to me that I would die on August 15, 2008 (I once dreamed) in the compartment of the train Petersburg - Moscow. This, as you know, did not happen.
When and how did you realize that everything will be fine?
First of all, I am a biologist.
C And secondly - a person.
No, secondly a biologist and thirdly a biologist. I am well aware that HIV is the most studied organism in the world. More studied than Drosophila and E. coli. The immune system fought, the load was reduced, there was no what is called the primary HIV reaction, that is, flu or diarrhea for several months. I immediately knew that I would live with it.
C Have you tried to figure out who you got it from?
C Why?
Because I asked Vadim the question: “Does it make sense?” He replied: “In 2003, epidemiological investigations do not make sense. Everything is from everyone. Waste of time, nerves and money. It is necessary to treat the problem, and not to engage in detective work.
With whom did you immediately tell?
C What did mom say?
“We had many troubles in the family, we will survive one more.” Dad didn't know about it. He was a conservative person. He died and I don't think he knew before he died. We hid this fact.
C What did you say at work?
There was a situation when I was prescribed therapy. First, in 2010, I was prescribed abacavir, very effective drug... But he has such a feature: sometimes some people have hypersensitivity to him. And I got a crazy fever - the temperature is 42 ° C, the lymph nodes crawl out behind the collar. In general, in short, I even ended up in the hospital for two days - in the same hospital, with a dropper. And abacavir was cancelled. It was for me, of course, a shock, I thought that all therapy works like this. But it turns out that I'm just hypersensitive to abacavir.
And so, when I had these problems, and I went to work, I could not say that I had heat that makes me feel bad. I said that I have some kind of cancer or something else, that I still need some other drugs, they are changing the scheme. In general, I didn’t deviate much, just in words - not cancer, but HIV. They changed the scheme for me, and at that moment I had allergic reaction- red muzzle, as if I'm drunk with some. And I needed to explain it somehow. I said that I have cancer there, and so on. Such a cover version.
C Who, besides your mother, knew that you had HIV? For example, you told me the year in 2010.
I will answer this way: who needs it - they knew.
Did you know from Kulistikov?
Actually, we didn't talk that often. But since Vladimir Mikhailovich Kulistikov was always close to the secret services, I believe that for the special services the card in the clinic of the Presidential Administration, crossed out with a red felt-tip pen, was not a secret.
C How did you move from the Federal Center to the Moscow City Center?
I transferred when I needed to get my drugs. This was due to some kind of bureaucracy - then for the first time I received a compulsory medical insurance policy, a Moscow residence permit, and so on. And Pokrovsky said: everything, 500 cells, go to Mazus. There are free drugs. And then the scheme was somehow prohibitively expensive, probably $ 2,000. I could hardly afford that kind of money.
Is the Moscow center somehow different from the Federal one?
There are even orchids instead of ficuses. The only thing is that I am, for example, an almost ideal patient, I remember when I need to come for prescriptions, take tests, and I think about less accurate people - maybe it’s just that they don’t warn me that it’s time to take an analysis? Well, at least SMS.
Did they give you therapy right away?
C Why?
I was still watching. The level was the same - 500. And only in 2010 it fell to 416, and then therapy was prescribed.
C This is when the allergy to abacavir started?
Yes. The first therapy was unsuccessful.
C You went to the doctor and she changed your abacavir to what?
There was zidovudine with abacavir, and there was zidovudine with lamivudine. And plus intelligence, which, thank God, is still purchased, and not produced by our domestic ones.
From those times - good scheme. How are your visits to the AIDS center on Sokolina Gora going now?
On the third floor, to Elena Lvovna. I write in viber.
C So you're not sitting in the general queue?
No. There is a very strict rule there: people who can be exposed are served separately. Although, of course, spotting is possible. But you know, among the infected there is a certain rule. We are now on Periscope, on underscope, on Twitter, on Hornet, on Instagram, on Facebook, anywhere. They don't take pictures. It's not like someone says, "Don't take pictures!" People are united by a common misfortune, and they do not spot each other.
How do you pay for this reception?
Of course not. And a double check. Because I'm a biologist, and I need repeatability of the result. After the data was published that the death rate from heart attacks in Russia is very much underestimated and the person who died from a heart attack is given any other diagnoses, because Putin ordered that fewer people die from heart attacks, they began to die less. Therefore, I think: are they underestimating? Therefore, a double check is very useful in order to pass an analysis for the same thing in two independent centers. I beg your pardon, but we know perfectly well what Rosstat is.
Since then, have you had meetings with ordinary doctors?
No. I don't get sick at all.
S Well, you said that you have implants.
C Have there been any problems in your life during these 12 years that you have been living with HIV?
In 2005, I was operated on for a routine proctological disease at the clinic on Sokolina Gora. Excellent surgeon, still recommend. They say: “There is HIV!” - "It the only place in Moscow, where there is no HIV, because there is absolute sterility,” I say. But only surgical interventions require this analysis. This is such hypocrisy when a dentist, when drilling a tooth for caries, does not require an HIV examination, and if you are given implants, they require, although the amount of blood and biological fluid released during this is about the same. And at the Institute of Dentistry, which is on Novoslobodskaya, not far from me, they told me: “No, we will not put implants for you, we will put removable dentures for you.” And I bought these removable dentures, that is, I paid for them, after which I realized that my diction was seriously deteriorating, but I still work on the air. And, in general, I carried them in a pack of cigarettes for two years. When my next tooth fell out, I realized that it was necessary to put implants, and the same professors from Moscow State Medical University said that there was such a wonderful guy - I won’t give his last name, otherwise, God forbid, they will fire him (he’s in his chair Vic was sitting) - and he said: "I don't care." Well, Lena Orlova-Morozova (head of the polyclinic of the Moscow Regional AIDS Center) sent him links to American studies, where a cohort of about two thousand people with HIV in America is based on the survival rate of implants. That the stats don't differ. Smart guy, normal, adequate absolutely.
With Good teeth inserted in the end?
The bottoms are already ready, but there is still no money for the tops.
C You follow the latest in the industry and all the bullshit. Are you satisfied with the therapeutic regimen you are currently receiving?
I would say so. I don't care about the packaging - even if it's in a piece of paper. I care about what's inside. And today Vadim told me that they don't actually check what's inside them. And we have data from Alexey Maschan, who is engaged in pediatric oncology and who is a great authority in this matter, that, it turns out, the active ingredients in imported anti-cancer chemotherapy drugs are almost 25% of the norm. In the zoo, the tigers do not receive meat, that is. And many cancer drugs are life-long. Therefore, the long-term effects are unknown to me. And there are no short-term effects of import substitution yet. Because I have the same immune status that I had before 2010, maybe even better, somewhere around 750 cells. Only now I can still say for sure that since 2010 I am generally less contagious than anyone potential person who has never analyzed. As Pokrovsky said, you have to produce two glasses of saliva or a glass of semen to infect someone.
C So you didn't have any complications related to the pills you're taking.
Not now. But I would like to know, after all, what's inside. Because the immune system is slowly modulating. We don't quite understand what's in these pills and what's not. Because I don’t really imagine how such complex drugs as tenofovir — and this is a complex drug, a complex formula — can be quickly manufactured by a company, for example, Pharmsintez. I think it's all from one Bangalore, from one Indian barrel scooped with a spoon, but we can't prove it.
C Well, it's like that all over the world.
But there are different lines. The first is for America, the second is for the EU countries, the third is for everyone else.
Q Over the years, have you begun to be more careful about your health?
Yes, of course, I began to pay more attention, for example, to the condition of the tonsils, to feel them, or to the condition of the inguinal lymph nodes. But general practitioners - they do not require this. I had a problem with my knee...
C But do you tell general practitioners that you have HIV?
No. Don "t ask - don" t tell. If they ask me...
C Do you, as a biologist, think that HIV infection is a kind of systemic disease, against which, for example, colds can develop?
Colds - no. Because HIV-negative people, especially when they work around the clock, have colds three times a week. For me, it's once every two or three months. Then, due to the fact that I have a very high immune status and reactivity of the immune system, I have a temperature on every occasion. I cut my finger - my temperature is 37.6 ° C. It's been like this since childhood.
C Would it be easier for you if you didn't feel uncomfortable discussing this with a regular doctor?
I did it today. All conventional doctors now know about it. So I want to see if the doctor is coming - although I don’t want to look at it at all, because I healthy man- whether the doctor, say, will feel me in rubber gloves. I'm experimenting on myself.
C Excellent. Why did you do that? This was not a spontaneous decision. When you called me this morning to ask if your coming out would help the cause, I thought you were drunk.
I rather drank because I needed 100 grams for courage.
S We went through it. I know it. Why did you do that?
Stop lying.
C Why?
When we repost Navalny's anti-corruption posts, we are all so beautiful, we are all so wonderful, we are all such Facebook lames, hamsters. “My mom is terminally ill” – 148 likes. I'm fed up with this culture of likes. I can't keep a skeleton in a closet. This should be a showcase because there are so many people among you guys who are wearing this. They may not even know about it. They go left and right, as they say. Fathers of families, mothers of families. In the end, enough national lies. Why am I not lying about the Donbass, why am I not lying about Syria, and why should I lie here?
C You can just not talk about it. In the end, this is your own business.
And it was all spontaneous. I got a call from the editor-in-chief of the Hard Day’s Night program, Ksyusha Kozhina, yesterday, around the same time, around midnight. Since I also serve as a science columnist on Dozhd, she asks if I'll come to Hard Day's Night with Vadim Pokrovsky. And in general it turned out: either I, like a journalist, go and ask questions on duty, or, since it happened, I dump everything honestly. Then I called you. And you didn't recommend me to do it. But I did it. We have to do things sometimes. Not for publicity. Although PR in this case is very important. It is important in the sense that, firstly, you should know what is going on with us. You must understand that HIV-infected people are not suckers, degenerates, shelters, homeless people, drug addicts with a syringe sticking out of their knees.
C But that's the way it is.
And so too. But you must understand that any noble person - I do not consider myself one of them - can be a carrier of this infection. And live with it for a long time.
That is, everything somehow came together, and I realized that if I don’t do it today, I will never do it.
Did it make it easier for you?
No, I got scared.
C Why?
And I don't know what will happen tomorrow.
C What are your guesses?
I'm afraid to even build them.
S Well, now you see your Facebook feed ...
I see my feed. I don't see the LifeNews feed.
Does your life somehow come into contact with Lifenews?
Does the life of 86% come into contact with LifeNews? I don't even know if they'll put me in a taxi tomorrow. Will they drink from the same cup with me.
C Do you think that what you have done will really help the hundreds of thousands of people living with HIV in Russia?
Yes. I wouldn't do it otherwise.
Would such an act help you yourself?
C Why?
When a person learns about his diagnosis, I understood this from my own example, he is, as it were, encapsulated. He builds a kind of protective wall around himself, some kind of shell, and he keeps a terrible secret in himself. There is nothing worse than keeping a terrible secret. Here are all the former prime ministers - for example, Stepashin - they all go with four guards, because they are all carriers of state secrets. And in this sense, you yourself are the bearer of a terrible secret. And it hurts you extremely from the inside that you know something that many, many others do not know. And a situation of discomfort is generated. It seems to me that such an opportunity open exit is, firstly, the elimination of stigma (I really hope so), and secondly ... I can’t say that I am very successful person. You and I are sitting in a small, not very furnished apartment. No gold, no fur storage. But enough. More or less middle class. And I am one of you. You can be in my place and I can be in yours. There is great amount people who are not examined, they do not have an internal bell. I think that after my speech, the best result would be if tomorrow so many people would go and check why they don’t heal this fucking wound, why they have total caries in their mouths. Why? The doctor does not tell you - go yourself.
At the same time, everything was very bad, in 2003, it was necessary to get a number, they were waiting, they were nervous. Now all this is done by tests. Take it yourself, buy at the pharmacy. 1000 rubles. Don't pay for ***, buy an HIV test.
Who called you first today?
And now everyone is on Facebook.
C I understand. Who called you first?
And no one called. Everyone is on Facebook.
S Okay. Well, we talked on the phone.
I called you. And you got me on Facebook.
S So, was I the first person you talked to?
C This is very funny.
It is important to hear a simple human voice sometimes. Because all these likes, all these shares, retweets, reposts - this, of course, is all wonderful, but now we have actually reduced communication to a couple of words - norms, ok. I can't stand these "seals": "everything will be fine, honey." Today they wrote to me on Facebook: “Get well soon!”. And I'm not sick, why should I recover? Are you trying to offer me genetic scissors to cut this crap out of lymphocytes, or what? You don't have these scissors. "Get well!". Three likes.
C Man does not understand.
Does not understand. That's why I did it today.
С Tell me, during these 12 years, have you come across the fact that people do not know anything about HIV at all? Or do they still know something?
The fact is that in 2009, when we were making a documentary film for NTV about the infection, in particular about HIV, I got acquainted with the so-called movement of HIV dissidents, who believe that due to adverse weather conditions, you develop an immunodeficiency. Then a mass of lymphotropic viruses land on your lymphocytes, one of which is HIV. It's a trendy theory now. But it can also be denied that the Earth revolves around the Sun. Yes, such discoveries amazed me from time to time.
C But these are AIDS dissidents. And I'm talking about ordinary people. Today they say to you: "Get well soon." This is something people really don't understand.
Don't know. My mother went through the entire Internet and somehow she was very calm already in 2004.
C Didn't your mom call you today?
I called.
S Well, you say that it's just me. And what did mom say?
She is afraid that some neighbors will appear there who will not give her injections, since she is the mother of an AIDS patient. She said that it was my decision, that it would be hard for me to live with him. And she, perhaps, too. Because it is surrounded by people who sincerely believe that the Donbass is part of Russia. With the corresponding consequences.
C What did Sindeeva tell you?
Same. This is not Sindeeva's decision.
C But this is the decision voiced on her channel.
I let her know that I would do it. "Won't it hurt the channel's image?" “No,” Sindeeva told me after much thought. Which you, too, actually witnessed.
S Yes.
No, it won't hurt. How many subscribers are there, how many of which - I don’t care. Now I'm concerned that people who live without knowing about it, find out. Here is a sore throat - go get tested. Lymph nodes - go get tested. The wound does not heal - go get tested. The sooner you find HIV, the longer you will live.
There is a theme in the global pharmaceutical industry: the longer you live, the longer you live. The longer you prolong life, the more likely it is that a magic bullet will be found.
The world is divided into two categories. First World War- a huge number of gas gangrenes, deadly pneumonias, there was such a trench disease. People before penicillin - people after penicillin. By starting therapy earlier, you can live to see the invention of conditional penicillin. And HIV will seem to you... Are you afraid of the plague? No more plague. From the plague - the same one from which half of Europe died - there has long been tetracycline. Two tablets.
C I understand that you do not know what will happen tomorrow. But nevertheless, when you took this step, did you think how things would develop now?
I don't want to give to my enemies possible options their actions. And I threw them in about 20 options.
S Good. I'm not talking about enemies now. Let's talk about you. I, too, I experienced all this and I understand that enemies remain enemies, and friends remain friends. And you will remain yourself, and your life will continue. But she will change.
Yes, I know it.
C Do you suppose in which direction it will change?
No. I will work on the Dozhd TV channel.
Q Will you be involved in AIDS activism in any way?
If I am involved as a public face for PR campaigns, I will try to make these PR campaigns very human, so that people can see that HIV is controlled, that ... There is only one store next to me, there is a package of condoms, 12 pieces, costs 600 rubles. Opposite that RSUH store with a hostel. There are a lot of underage boys and girls. And I see every day, coming home from work, when a boy and a girl take champagne, look at condoms, their eyes rest on the number 600 - and they don’t buy them. Because condoms cost as much as champagne. And here it is necessary to show the will of the sovereign, and not dismiss the bearded Chaplin. This is where the state will, subsidies, free condoms in schools and institutes should be, because 18-year-olds in their entire hostel will spread it with the help of heterosexual contact - it will blaze with fire, you understand?
C And what is missing in Russia in the whole topic of AIDS now?
This is where the balance needs to be struck. You have AIDS - this does not mean that you cannot drink from the same mug, and, on the other hand, if you have HIV and have medication, this does not mean that you should not use protection. This is some kind of delicate balance, and here you need to think through the PR policy. And it should be built not by advertising agencies, but by people who understand and live with it. And I feel like I can help in some way.
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Today's broadcast of the Hard Day's Night program on the Dozhd TV channel received an unexpected continuation. On the day of the fight against AIDS, one of the show's hosts, journalist Pavel Lobkov, made a sensational confession, which, according to him, was not easy for him. The former war correspondent said that ill with HIV.According to the man, this was discovered in 2003, and since that moment his life has completely changed.
The attending physician Pavel Lobkova appeared on the air of the program, with whom the audience was to discuss the problems of HIV-infected people that they face at every stage of the fight against the disease. As it turned out, it was to this doctor, who today became a guest of the program on Dozhd, that Lobkov once turned. The journalist frankly spoke about the injustice he faced when turning to doctors under the insurance provided to him by the NTV channel, where he worked at that time.
“After much persuasion, I asked to take tests for HIV and syphilis from me, to which I was told: “Go to an infectious disease specialist,” recalls the 48-year-old journalist. - He had a plump folder, crossed out with a red marker, where it says HIV-plus. A doctor with the face of a Soviet Buddha told me: “You are detached from the program of voluntary health insurance because you have been diagnosed with HIV. Your case will be transferred to the Moscow Health Committee, where you will be registered. All the best. Goodbye". You see, now, in order to find a doctor with whom I could put dental implants, I spent a year ... I sent him a bunch of links, American works, which prove that there is no difference in the survival rate of implants in HIV-plus and HIV-minus. .
The journalist made a sensational confession on the air of a TV show on the Dozhd channel // Photo: Frame of the program of the TV channel "Rain"
During the program, Pavel Lobkov also apologized to the audience for spending a lot of airtime talking about what he had to go through since the doctors gave him a terrible diagnosis. The journalist explained this by the fact that today he made an important act in his life, which was not so easy for him. Lobkov spoke about how much courage is needed for those who are faced with this problem, because often doctors simply cannot properly prepare patients for disappointing test results.
According to the doctor invited to the studio, doctors really need to talk with patients in advance about the possibility of HIV infection in order to make it easier for them to take this blow if the tests confirm the diagnosis.
We will remind, not so long ago the world was shocked by the news that the famous actor Charlie Sheen is sick with HIV. The artist himself hid this fact from the public for a long time and even had to pay those who knew about the terrible diagnosis for silence. By the way, this news seriously excited the public. In a matter of days, several former mistresses of the actor were discovered at once, who considered it necessary to accuse him of trying to hide the fact of having a serious illness. Many women with whom Charlie Sheen had previously had a relationship filed lawsuits.
Pavel Lobkov is a Russian journalist, TV presenter, documentary filmmaker, author of the television films Mausoleum, USSR: The Last Days, as well as the series Pavel Lobkov's Science Detectives. At one time he collaborated with NTV, TNT, Channel Five. Today he is the leading columnist for the Dozhd TV channel. In 2015, he admitted to being HIV positive.
Childhood and youth
Pavel Lobkov was born in the suburbs of Leningrad, Sestroretsk. After graduating from a local high school in 1983, he entered the prestigious Leningrad State University at the Faculty of Biology, where he specialized in botany.
facebookAfter 5 years of diligent study and graduation with honors, the young man got into graduate school, developed science project and even had an internship at scientific center at the Dutch National University. He also worked at the Leningrad Botanical Institute. Nevertheless, Pavel Albertovich did not defend his dissertation, since by that time he had become interested in journalism and decided to try himself in this capacity.
TV
Pavel Lobkov began his career as a journalist as a correspondent. At first, he collected information for the Unified Television Information Service of the Petersburg State Television and Radio Company, including appearing on the screen in the popular Fifth Wheel program. After 3 years, he switched to the independent NTV channel and became the director of the St. Petersburg branch, but Lobkov not only managed the employees, but also wrote news himself, collected information material.
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Journalist Pavel Lobkov
In 1995, he moved to Moscow and began filming stories for the very popular news programs Segodnya, The Other Day and Itogi. At the same time, together with journalists Leonid Parfyonov, he created and hosted a social and political TV show in the format of the talk show “Hero of the Day”. Thanks to this program, in 1998, Lobkov was awarded the title of "Best Reporter" at the annual TEFI television award.
When in April 2001 a raider takeover and a forced change of leadership took place on the NTV channel, Lobkov, like most other employees, left the channel of his own free will and collaborated with TNT for some time. But very soon the journalist returned to his native place of work and created a new project "Plant Life", in which he professionally spoke about the flora of the planet, based on the knowledge gained at the university in his specialty.
Pavel Lobkov with NTV colleagues / facebook
Also, Lobkov was simultaneously engaged in correspondent activities for other Channel Four programs, mainly choosing the political direction of the news. But after his satirical story about NTV General Director Nikolai Senkevich, which appeared in 2003 in the Namedni program, which caused a great public outcry, the journalist for a long time withdrew from information and political activities.
From 2006 to 2008, he also collaborated with the Petersburg-Fifth Channel TV and Radio Company, where he hosted the Progress with Pavel Lobkov program. Pavel worked at NTV until January 2012, but was fired due to a story prepared, but never aired, about massive fraud in the parliamentary elections in December 2011. This video has been posted for general viewing on the Internet.
Jambox's interview with journalist Pavel LobkovSince February 2012, he has been employed by the independent Dozhd TV channel, where he works as a TV presenter for the Let's Go Home program in a duet with writer and journalist Sasha Filipenko.
In 2014, together with his broadcast colleague Anna Mongait, Pavel Lobkov decided to become a member of the Ice Bucket Challenge charity flash mob, which had previously started in America. Its essence was that a public person douses himself with ice water and challenges three more to a “duel”. famous people. If they accept the challenge and do the same - the chain continues, in case of refusal - everyone must contribute at least $ 100 to the account of the charitable organization. Those who dared to undergo an extreme water procedure can also transfer funds.
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Pavel Albertovich, having poured himself from a bucket on the air of the Dozhd TV channel, made a challenge to three Russian entrepreneurs - Yuri Kovalchuk and. It is interesting that in the USA such celebrities as Satya Nadella participated in the action.
In 2016, Lobkov announced from his Facebook page that he was leaving the Dozhd channel. The reason for this was the policy of the channel's management, which influenced its appearance. The journalist advocated the return of "large-scale, secular, witty" content, which, in his opinion, is now "plugged up with rags." , the general director of the television company, promised to meet the TV presenter halfway and make changes to the broadcasting schedule. The conversation between Lobkov and the head of the channel took place live.
Documentaries
Another page of Lobkov's creative biography is documentary. In August 2008, Pavel Albertovich began filming documentaries for the NTV channel. These were scientific detective stories in which the author-journalist talked about various discoveries in the field of biology, medicine, physiology, about the history of the ban on genetics in the USSR, and similar scientific and near-scientific facts.
Documentary"Dictatorship of the Brain"Such films as "Genes Against Us", "Dictatorship of the Brain", "The Power of Sleep", "Pill for Old Age", "Empire of the Senses" and other TV documentaries received a wide response. In total, before his dismissal from NTV, Pavel Lobkov managed to film 14 scientific and educational programs. He also participated in the creation of a number of descriptive programs - “Profession - Reporter”, “Central Television”, “NTVshniki”.
Disease
Live on the Hard Days Night program, which took place on December 1, 2015 on the Dozhd TV channel, the topic of discussion was devoted to world day the fight against AIDS. The guest of the telecast was Doctor of Medical Sciences, Academician Valentin Ivanovich Pokrovsky, who raised the urgent issue of the catastrophic state of affairs in Russia in the area of recognition by the authorities of the seriousness of the situation with those who fell ill with the “plague of the 20th century”. According to Pokrovsky, the number of people infected with HIV is approaching a million.
Program "Hard Days Night" - Pavel Lobkov: "I was diagnosed with HIV in 2003"Then Pavel Lobkov made a sensational statement: it turns out that he himself is a carrier of HIV infection, and he became infected back in 2003. The problem of such patients, according to the TV journalist, lies in the prejudice and bad attitude towards such patients, not only on the part of the surrounding people, but even on the part of doctors.
Lobkov said that the first infectious disease doctor who discovered HIV in Pavel Albertovich reported this terrible information rather detachedly and without necessary participation. Moreover, he removed his patient from the voluntary health insurance program.
And only Academician Pokrovsky, who became Lobkov's attending physician, was able to adequately analyze the situation, develop a program to slow down the progression of the immunodeficiency virus and provide moral support to a person who found himself in a terrible situation. Later, in an interview given by the journalist on the radio station "Moscow speaking", he explained that he confessed to having a terrible disease in order to relieve people of fear of HIV-infected people.
Program "Present Time" - How to survive in Russia with a diagnosis of HIV. Interview with Pavel LobkovAccording to Pavel Albertovich, he managed to live without therapy for 7 years, after which his immune status began to fall, and his viral load increased. The prescribed treatment initially led to the onset of side effects, therefore, a change in the regimen of medication was needed.
Now the TV journalist is confidently looking to the future, the amount of the virus in his blood is approaching zero, which allows Pavel to lead a normal life. Lobkov participates in events that highlight the problem of AIDS. In particular, together with the activist in 2016, he met with. Photos of the meeting were posted on Instagram.
Personal life
The personal life of a journalist is hidden from prying eyes. It is only known that Lobkov has no wife and children. The journalist did not commit an official coming-out in a non-traditional orientation, but he does not refute the information about his belonging to sexual minorities.
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The famous Russian journalist, one of the main presenters and observers of the Dozhd TV channel, Pavel Lobkov, posed in a penis costume next to an installation symbolizing an Easter egg, which was installed by the City Improvement Committee.
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"Installation from Pyotr Palych Biryukov and the Department of Improvement. The police did not appreciate it - Pasha was detained," the BBC website quotes a colleague of the detainee Sergei Yerzhenkov.
The site of the Dozhd TV channel published footage showing how a police officer checks Lobkov's documents. The provocateur explained that his costume was an element of a satirical plot. “We were filming a small sketch for our channel,” said Pavel.
The words of the TV journalist had no effect on the police. They told the bully that there were children walking on the street. Lobkov was put into a police car and taken to the Kitai-Gorod police station. The behavior of the TV star was recognized as a violation public order and fined Pavel 500 rubles.
Netizens were not surprised by Lobkov's antics, recalling that one medical clinic last fall already released promoters dressed as female genitals on the streets as "live advertising". That ad campaign went off without a hitch.
Recall that Lobkov previously hosted the program "Plant Life" and was engaged in the popularization of botany. He is also known for his AIDS education work. On December 1, 2015, on the air of the Dozhd TV channel, Pavel announced that he had been HIV-positive since 2003.
“After much persuasion, I asked to take tests for HIV and syphilis from me. The wound did not heal there for a long time. They told me: “Go to the infectious disease specialist.” Well, I went to the infectious disease specialist. "HIV plus," said the presenter.
By the way, this is not the only misfortune of a journalist. In September 2016, unknown persons attacked Lobkov in the center of Moscow. The attackers beat the journalist, and then took away the keys, wallet and mobile phone. One of the suspects was later arrested. It turned out to be a 21-year-old native of Belarus. The young man explained that he was not familiar with Lobkov and attacked him solely because of a lack of money.
July is not the most successful month for journalist Pavel LOBKOV. For example, three years ago he was severely beaten and robbed by Caucasian migrant workers right next to his house. This year, Pavel had another trouble - he was fired from NTV. True, he himself claims that everything happened by good mutual agreement between him and Vladimir KULISTIKOV.
38-year-old Pavel Lobkov worked on the NTV channel for 13 years. At first he was the director of the representative office in St. Petersburg, then he began to prepare reports for the programs "Today" and "Itogi", in 1996, together with Evgeny Kiselev and Leonid Parfyonov, he hosted the program "Hero of the Day". Three years ago, "Plant Life" appeared, and already here, a biologist by education, Lobkov fully revealed his talent. Thanks to this simple program, your personal plots Nikolai Rastorguev, Alena Apina, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, Alla Pugacheva, Oscar Kuchera, Laima Vaikule and several dozen other stars ennobled for free. Everyone was grateful to the skillful florist and pleasant conversationalist Pasha. But in March of this year, Lobkov said:
Each TV project has its own life span. What have we not done! In late autumn, flowers were planted in the apartments of the stars, and expeditions to other countries were organized. In general, everything has already been tried. So I am in favor of euthanasia: the program has the right to leave the screen without convulsions and death throes.
But then Pavel said that, although he was working on a new project, he would not leave Plant Life until the end of the year.
Parted like a gentleman
The other day, rumors spread along the corridors of Ostankino: they say that Lobkov is being fired and the reason for this is his supposedly unconventional orientation, which everyone knows about. According to many employees of the NTV channel, Pavel more than once got into difficult situations just because of this.
Because of his, let's say, femininity, the editors did not like Pasha and called offensive epithets behind his back, - one of the channel's employees told us, who asked not to be named. - But all these conflicts were minor and had no negative consequences. Now I hear Lobkov is in serious trouble.
Rumor has it that somehow deep after midnight, a slightly drunk Pavel called on his mobile to CEO NTV Vladimir Kulistikov and complained that the work does not bring him complete satisfaction. In conversation, the TV presenter was extremely gentle and even allowed himself to call the boss "my baby." What's surprising? Pavel is a delicate nature, and under the cover of night, feelings, as you know, become aggravated. But Kulistikov did not understand the affectionate impulse of the blue screen star and, according to the TV party, rudely interrupted the conversation and asked Pavel to come to his office the next day.
I beg you, do not write about any scandal, - Lobkov asked me tearfully when I called him. - I respect and appreciate Vladimir Mikhailovich very much. We parted like a gentleman. You could even say I asked for my resignation myself. I have nowhere to grow further on NTV. “Plant life” has already become obsolete, but I don’t see anything else worthy for myself on the TV channel. Until September, I will be listed on NTV, and then I will switch to the St. Petersburg federal channel. What I will do there - I will not say yet. I am very superstitious!
So far, Lobkov also refused to talk about his place of residence in the northern capital. But it is known that under St. Petersburg the TV presenter has a rather spacious dacha.
Evgeniy BRATKO