I recently bought an aquarium (I have long dreamed of goldfish). But the aquarium bought a very large 80 liters. And my scrofula is somehow lonely there. Now I'm thinking who can be hooked to them. They say that goldfish are very capricious and could just simply eat all the neighbors. Are there any fish that get along with them? Can you advise me!! I really wish there were more fish. And then because it hurts an empty aquarium.
4 answers Reply15.03.2013 17:08
lion666900 Helpful answer? |
Good afternoon! Everything is relative enough. From the very beginning, I have angelfish (4 pcs.), 2 gold ones, 2 telescopes, 4 Sumatran and 4 veil-tailed barbs, pearl and marble gourami, a couple of laliuses, 15 pieces of neon (red, black and ordinary), guppies, mollies and 3 species of catfish (I will probably not name the exact names). Everyone has been living very peacefully for several years now, no one bullies or offends anyone. The aquarium is really big. The secret, I think, is that all the fish that were launched were small and got used to each other from childhood. I try to keep the temperature regime relatively average - about 24-25 degrees, there is a powerful filter, good aeration and varied feeding (I try to give dry and frozen food at the same time, so each fish chooses a treat for itself). Golden ones do not eat anyone (well, except for fry of livebearers, with which almost everyone is supported). Also, no one gnaws the fins with gold. So everything is relative, it all depends on the comfort of each representative of the underwater world.
19.01.2014 11:12
Denstrighoff Helpful answer? |
The answer to this question is almost unambiguous - "NONE". Goldfish are best kept in a separate aquarium. Even different types Goldfish don't get along very well. It should be borne in mind that for one goldfish you need from 50 liters of water. Goldfish are very gluttonous and can easily devour other fish. Also for goldfish you need a certain temperature regime and fauna. Therefore, experienced aquarists recommend keeping goldfish in a separate aquarium and only with representatives of their own species. Undoubtedly, these are very beautiful fish, but think carefully before you start them. There are other beautiful views fish.
29.03.2013 07:00
AlexPif Helpful answer? |
Yes, due to the fact that fish can not always get along with those other fish that you want to settle with them, you need to know exactly with whom they can cohabitate and with whom they cannot. There is a lot of useful literature for this. At one time I kept an aquarium with goldfish. Therefore, I have studied this issue. Goldfish are a subspecies of freshwater carp. Unfortunately, it is very difficult for them to find good tankmates. Ideally, it is better to keep them generally separate from other fish. But if you really wanted to hook someone up, then let it be koi or plecostomus catfish. In any case, in such a company, no one will eat anyone and will not collide.
GOLDFISH COMPATIBILITY
WITH OTHER FISH
Compatibility issue Goldfish (Carassius) on the one hand, it is quite simple, and on the other hand, it is complex, and this is due to a number of specific nuances that are characteristic of this particular family of aquarium fish.
I think start this topic follows from the fact that ALL BREEDS OF GOLDFISH were obtained as a result of thousands of years of selection. Therefore, Veiltails, Orandas, Telescopes, Shubunkins and others are artificially bred breeds, which, in fact, were obtained from one ancestor - silver Chinese carp.
Therefore, if we talk about the intraspecific compatibility of Goldfish, that is, the possibility of joint keeping in an aquarium or pond, for example, telescopes and koi carps, then such coexistence takes place - all types of Goldfish are absolutely compatible with each other. But, THERE IS ONE BUT! Since all Scrofula are from the same tribe, they are in the same reservoir, they will interbreed with each other, resulting in "bastards" or, if you like, mutants - outbred hybrids. Based on the experiments carried out, this Cohabitation leads to degeneration and the transformation of fish back into crucian.
Therefore, if you plan to get offspring and breed Goldfish, then keeping them in different species in a common pond is FORBIDDEN!
Before discussion, the specific compatibility of Goldfish with other fish. It should be noted that Goldfish are large, clumsy, slow fish. And this specificity should definitely be fed. For example, if you keep Veiltails in a small aquarium with others, be it the most peaceful fish, then all the same, over time, the fish will die, since the lack of free space - the norms of content, will do their job and the fish will simply “bite”.
In addition, when discussing the compatibility of any species of fish, it should be borne in mind that a single fish taken has its own character. In this connection, even observing all aquarium fish compatibility rules, the output can be negative. In order to minimize this factor as much as possible, it is always recommended to plant different fish as young and at the same time, and not gradually add new ones to the old fish.
Now let's look at the compatibility of Goldfish with specific types of other fish.
Goldfish and Cichlids: Astronotus, Scalaria, Discus, Acara, Apistogramma, Parakeet, Cichlid: brilliant, black-striped, Severum and other cichlids.
Such an alliance, alas, is not possible. All fish of the cichlid family are aggressive and will not give life to Goldfish. Astronotus generally perceives the Goldens as a good live snack.
Somehow, I tried to combine veil angelfish with Goldfish, but alas, in the future they had to be seated. Despite the fact that veiled angelfish are slow and somewhat similar to golden ones, all the same, after a couple of days, races began throughout the aquarium.
Goldfish and Tetras : neon, minor, ternetsim, pulcher, lanterns, glass tetras, congo and other characin fish.
Here the situation is radically opposite. All tetras are so peaceful fish that pairing them with Goldfish will make for a wonderful variety of fish in your aquarium. One, but!!! When the Goldfish grow up, they can devour small tetras, so it is better to take “large” characin fish, for example, blackthorns or congo, to Zolotuha.
Goldfish and Labyrinths : all gourami, lalius, macrapods, etc.
I don't even know what to tell you. On the one hand they are compatible, but on the other hand they are not. This is due to the fact that labyrinths, in particular gourami, are very unpredictable fish and each individual gourami has its own character.
To make it clear, I will give an example from my own experience. A long time ago, when I started my first 35-liter aquarium and stuffed a bunch of fish into it, including two marbled gourami, the latter were like mice, did not touch anyone and peacefully coexisted in a “small hostel”. But, when one day I planted another blue gourami in a large aquarium, he made such a brawl that it was bad even for small cichlids. I had to take it back to the pet store.
At the same time, laliuses are scared fish, I have no experience, but I think that they will be bad with Goldfish.
In view of the above, the coexistence of Goldens with Labyrinths is a hassle, therefore such a neighborhood is not recommended.
Goldfish and Aquarium catfish, other bottom fish: corridors (speckled catfish), ancistrus (sucker catfish), bots, acanthophthalmus, green catfish brochis, tarakatums and others.
In general, 100% compatibility is observed here. I will draw your attention, only that not all catfish are very peaceful. For example, Botsia Modesta or Baya are catfish that can bite. Or, for example, ancistrus at night can easily stick to sleeping Goldfish, from which the latter will look like plucked chickens.
Everything else is OK! Moreover, all aquarium catfish are good helpers in the fight against poop from Goldfish. Leave the aquarium bottom to the catfish and the frequency of siphoning of the aquarium bottom will decrease.
Goldfish and cyprinids : barbs, zebrafish and others.
It should always be remembered that Goldfish are slow and any neighborhood with nimble fish, and even more so with those who can pluck them, is not desirable. I don’t see anything criminal in the joint keeping of zebrafish and goldfish, but I don’t recommend it with barbs. The Sumatrans will easily bite the Golds.
Goldfish and pecilia, viviparous fish : guppies, swordsmen, mollies and others.
Somewhere I read that guppies can attack and bite Goldfish! But, something I do not believe in these stories. I can’t even imagine how this goof can covet a big Goldfish, unless they attack in a crowd))).
To be honest, I have no experience in keeping livebearers and goldfish. And in general, it is somehow not respectable to keep the golden elders of the aquarium world and unpretentious livebearers together.
And I also want to offer you such a topic as compatibility of goldfish and aquarium plants.
Whoever started the Goldfish knows that this issue is acute, since the Golden family simply loves plant foods. To avoid the disgustingly plucked look of aquarium plants, I give my Goldens twice a week overgrown duckweed from another aquarium. You can also recommend keeping Goldfish with aquarium plants that will be too tough for Goldfish: anubias, microsoriums, cryptocorynes, and mosses.
See this article for more details on this - FISH EAT PLANTS, WHAT TO DO?
Summing up, it should be said that, nevertheless, Goldfish are fish intended for a species aquarium that require separate, special attention. Moreover, the cost of these fish is quite high, they are long-lived compared to other inhabitants of the aquarium, and therefore it would be a shame to lose such a fish because some five-kopeck ancistrus did not let her sleep at night.
Aquarium Fish Compatibility VideoCompatibility types
Fish species can be:
- fully compatible;
- completely incompatible;
- conditionally (limitedly) compatible.
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Everything is clear with the first two categories, while the third includes species whose coexistence is possible under certain conditions (such may be the size of the aquarium, its correct zoning, the presence of shelters, or even the character traits and life experience of specific fish individuals). I must say that sometimes - very rarely! - in aquariums, completely incompatible species somehow manage to get along, but these are just exceptions.
To facilitate the task of selecting fish, there are species compatibility tables, they are in special literature and many aquarium sites. But let's try to formulate the principles by which the compatibility of fish is determined.
Basic principles of compatibility of aquarium fish species
Predators and prey
Size matters
Opposites Don't Converge
Territorial aggressors
Gentle beauties
What to do if you really want to populate incompatible species in the aquarium?
All about aquarium goldfish
ALL ALL ALL ABOUT GOLDFISH
Dear reader! This article is a collection of all the articles on our site. Also, we tried to supplement the article with the nuances of keeping and caring for goldfish in an aquarium.
Why is such an article needed? Everything is very simple. Many beginners in the aquarium world do not know how to keep them, make gross mistakes, as a result of which, after a month, goldfish, at best, fall ill with fin rot, and at worst, float belly up.
For example, often on our forum, and on the Internet as a whole, they ask the question - why is my gold fish swims sideways or belly up? When you start to figure it out, look for the cause of such an ailment and ask questions to the owner ... the answer is found by itself and literally lies on the surface of the water.
Many do not know, forget or do not want to know that the feeding of fish should be balanced, that is, their diet should include dry food, both live and vegetable. Goldfish are gluttonous, prone to overeating, so the issue of nutritional balance is as relevant for them as it is for anyone else. As for the above question, the answer is simple - in the process of eating dry food, goldfish swallow air along with food. If you feed them only dry food, the fish, due to excess air in the food system, begin to float upside down. The problem is solved in an elementary way - the fish are transferred to the correct, full-fledged feeding, and after 3-4 days the goldfish begin to swim normally.
Alas, there are many such examples and it is impossible to cover them all. But, we will still try to do this by centralizing all information about goldfish. We will try to focus on the most important points maintenance of gold aquarium fish.
Goldfish: description, types, highlights of the content
Choosing aquarium neighbors for angelfish
Scalars are peaceful aquarium fish, which are called "angel fish" in some countries. As members of the Cichlid family, they still have a predatory instinct. Is it possible for the scalar to be compatible with other fish? This is a controversial issue, since even schematically acceptable compatibility can end in failure for any aquarium fish. If you grow a angelfish with other fish, starting from a young age, then in the future they get along.
The main rule is not to settle them with predatory, fast and aggressive fish and those who are smaller in size. Whoever fits in the mouth, the scalar will eat those. The compatibility of these aquatic organisms with: corydoras catfish, pseudotropheus, danios, platies, labeos, tetras has been proven. We recommend that you familiarize yourself with the species compatibility table, which does not guarantee a peaceful settlement in one aquarium, but gives an idea of with whom angelfish usually get along.
Compatibility table: angelfish and other species
Compatibility with shellfish and crustaceans
Unpretentious gourami - excellent neighbors
Character
Are they compatible with each other?
About compatibility with representatives of other species
Compatibility criteria
To understand whether compatibility between species is possible, you need to familiarize yourself with the criteria for full, partial compatibility and incompatibility. With full compatibility, you can safely observe the life of the fish, with partial there are threats of rivalry, in the absence of compatibility as such, the fish do not need to be settled in one aquarium at all.
Pairs of gourami and fish, compatibility:
- Angelfish and gourami: fully compatible
- Barbs: partially compatible
- Males: incompatible
- African cichlids: incompatible
- South American cichlids: incompatible
- Corridors: fully compatible
- Danio: fully compatible
- Discus: partially compatible
- Loaches: partially compatible
- Goldfish: incompatible
- Gourami: partially
- Guppies: partially
- Koi: incompatible
- Boots: completely
- Mollies: completely
- Astronotuses: incompatible
- Pecilia: completely
- Plecostomuses: completely
- Rainbows: full
- Rasbory: completely
- Labeo: completely
- Swordsmen: completely
- Tetras: completely
- Acne: partially
- Piranhas: incompatible
- Shrimp: incompatible
- Floating aquarium plants: completely
See also: How to care for chocolate gourami?
With whom do parrot fish get along?
Main characteristics
What to feed parrots
Scalar Compatibility
To this day, disputes continue as to how compatible parrots with scalars are, because there have been both cases of attacks on these fish and peaceful coexistence. Angelfish prefer to hide in algae, and parrots like to feel their plates, inadvertently damaging the fish. Once "feasting" on the scalar, this creature will not stop, and will touch the rest.
There were examples when parrots got along in the redistribution of one "communal apartment", but its volume should be at least 200 liters. During the spawning of fish, parrots drive the angelfish into a far corner, holding them there. Since angelfish are slow, parrots can bite their fins. If you have no other choice but to settle them together, then build comfortable shelters for everyone.
For parrots, fast fish of similar sizes are suitable. If you follow all the recommendations, your aquarium will turn into a friendly nursery, life in which will become a real idyll for every fish.
See also: Cichlids - rules for keeping in home aquariums
Rules for compatibility of discus with other fish
Discus are peaceful aquarium fish, slow and timid. They can get along with the same fish of similar sizes, but there are a number of reasons why it is undesirable to settle them with other types of fish. It would seem that, as representatives of the Cichlid family, they should have a hardy organism and strong immunity, but their maintenance with other fish is still an open question.
Compatibility b mollies with guppies are almost perfect. Both species are viviparous, live in warm brackish water, love sunlight and dense vegetation. If breeding is also included in your plans, then before giving birth, the fish need to be separated from each other, and after the offspring appear, the females should also be removed, since they are sometimes not averse to feasting on their own fry.
In general, mollies can be kept along with:
- All types of pecilia and catfish,
- rainbows,
- tetrami,
- gourami,
- Labeo.
Angelfish and goldfish are beautiful and popular freshwater fish, and many hobbyists would love to have both species in the same tank. But is it possible keep goldfish and angelfish together? Unfortunately, these fish have different needs and are not recommended for keeping together.
The temperature in the aquarium
Goldfish are cold-water fish (because they are descended from crucian carp) and prefer water temperatures between 18 and 23 degrees Celsius, while angelfish are tropical fish that start at 24 degrees. This is already a sufficient reason to keep the fish separately, because. keeping fish in conditions of "uncomfort" leads to a weakening of the fish's immunity, disease and death.
Temperament
Goldfish are generally peaceful creatures and can live with most other peaceful fish. Angelfish get along well with other types of angelfish, but tend to be aggressive with peaceful fish. It is likely that they will prey on goldfish and certainly on their fins. Thus, even if the temperature of keeping these species coincided, it would not be possible to keep them together - angelfish will offend goldfish.
Aquarium size
Many aquarists keep goldfish or angelfish in small tanks, but small tanks can limit growth and lead to health problems. Both types of fish require enough space. Angelfish require at least 12 liters of water per fish, and goldfish need 15 to 30 liters of water per fish. An adult and large goldfish will need 50 to 100 liters per fish.
Nutrition
The diet of angelfish and goldfish is quite similar. Both species are omnivorous, but angelfish require more protein. Bloodworms, brine shrimp are excellent food for these types of fish. But goldfish are required to be fed with vegetable food, because it is still a herbivorous fish species.